Bush is ripping off system, not working class people

Saturday, July 5, 2008 11:21 PM EDT

Talk about having no clue as to what you're talking about. Carole Estabrook's June 23 column fits exactly into that category. What makes her an expert on how social programs work and why people are unemployed? Unless she, at one time or another, has been personally involved in either, she's not qualified to act like she's got the right answers.
Just like Reagan and Bush and all the others with that self-righteous conservative mentality, she's labeling all the unemployed as lazy and ripping off the system. Well, Miss Estabrook, I don't know what world you've been living in for the last eight years, but if you were living in the real world you'd know who's been ripping off the system big time. The answer, of course, is George Bush, his GOP cronies, Bush's special interests groups (Halliberton, Blackwater, big oil, the military industrial complex) etc., etc.

Ninety-nine cents of every dollar the federal government spends goes to these rip-off artists friends of government. And your solution to government spending is to stop spending on social programs because you believe most are capable of just going out and obtaining a job at livable wages.

If you want some prime time examples of how difficult it can be to find employment, let me expound on the following. First of all you just don't walk into a place and get hired. Right from the get-go you're in competition with a number of applicants for that one job being advertised. The bottom line is job applicants can't hire themselves. Even when you have a part-time job trying to get that job to turn into a full-time job doesn't happen. Why? Because employers prefer part-time employment to full-time employment for obvious reasons. For your information, Miss Estabrook, for the last two decades no one has gotten to use Social Services without a price tag. That price tag is workfare. So how do you explain people wanting to stay on Social Services if they're on workfare? Seems like they'd get a good job if they could.

Murray Lynch

Auburn

The Citizens' Say

There are 12 comment(s)

AJ wrote on Jul 7, 2008 4:52 PM:

" Aside from the 99% comment, Murray's letter is pretty accurate. Nothing you can do or say, nonsensical, to make it appear otherwise. Nice try though. "

sensible wrote on Jul 7, 2008 1:11 PM:

" AJ, don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of W. or the Republican Party as a whole. I also understand that Murray is voicing his opinion. However, Murray states his so-called truth by painting a very wide brush. In fact the problem with most of the post on this board is that most people speak from the far right or the far left and attack, attack, and attack. Those of us in the middle that can see the gray in the issues are left without a voice. For example, you continue to paint all corporations with one brushstroke while there are many more responsible corporations than corrupt. "

AJ wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:38 AM:

" "Just like Reagan and Bush and all the others with that self-righteous conservative mentality, she's labeling all the unemployed as lazy and ripping off the system. Well, Miss Estabrook, I don't know what world you've been living in for the last eight years, but if you were living in the real world you'd know who's been ripping off the system big time. The answer, of course, is George Bush, his GOP cronies, Bush's special interests groups (Halliberton, Blackwater, big oil, the military industrial complex) etc., etc."

Are you going to deny that any of this is true, nonsensical? If so, it may be time to crawl out from under your rock. "

AJ wrote on Jul 7, 2008 9:36 AM:

" Sensible wrote on Jul 6, 2008 6:37 PM:
" AJ, are you serious? How about asking Murray to make claims by citing some facts. Then, maybe I can refute something that has been intelligently written.

Social Services certainly play an important part of helping people that have been met with unfortunate circumstances. However, it is supposed to be a safety-net. People need to make sacrifices and change their lifestyles when they are met with these circumstances. Take the job that may be "beneath" you. Cancel cable, stop eating out, don't go to the bar, etc... There are many proud people that do these things everyday. There are other able-bodied individuals that just milk the system, order pizza and play X-Box all day.

I'll advocate all of that if you would be willing to hold the biggest abusers (corporations) to nearly the same standard. - No subsidies or tax breaks if you move jobs overseas, for starters. "

brew1234 wrote on Jul 6, 2008 11:38 PM:

" What makes you more of an expert than her? "

brew1234 wrote on Jul 6, 2008 11:37 PM:

" Social services is not always a safety net but to the mentally challenged and the unhealthy it is their life line. We are responsible for those more needy than ourselves. "

Sensible wrote on Jul 6, 2008 6:37 PM:

" AJ, are you serious? How about asking Murray to make claims by citing some facts. Then, maybe I can refute something that has been intelligently written.

Social Services certainly play an important part of helping people that have been met with unfortunate circumstances. However, it is supposed to be a safety-net. People need to make sacrifices and change their lifestyles when they are met with these circumstances. Take the job that may be "beneath" you. Cancel cable, stop eating out, don't go to the bar, etc... There are many proud people that do these things everyday. There are other able-bodied individuals that just milk the system, order pizza and play X-Box all day. "

AJ wrote on Jul 6, 2008 4:15 PM:

" FG, that headline struck me as a little odd as well.

RD, I would agree that 99% is stretching things a bit, but that does NOT negate the overall thrust of the letter.. How do you arrive at that conclusion? Pretty strange logic to me. "

rd wrote on Jul 6, 2008 12:16 PM:

" A.J., just one sentence "that 99% of every federal dollar goes to friends of Bush", is a blantant lie and refutes the rest of this dumb letter from your socialist friend. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jul 6, 2008 11:17 AM:

" It certainly is a poorly-conceived headline, as it sounds like the writer means that Bush is not ripping off working-class people! "

AJ wrote on Jul 6, 2008 9:33 AM:

" Another nonsensical post from sensible. Instead of ad-hominem, why don't you refute his claims with some facts? The reason is that you cannot do it because Murray Lynch is absolutely correct. "

Sensible wrote on Jul 6, 2008 9:25 AM:

" Apparently Mr. Lynch's occupation is writing poorly conceived letters to the newspaper so his fellow citizens can shake their heads at his cluelessness. "

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