The news reports of the past month have proven to be most unsettling to us veterans.

The thought of losing a family member to war, the thought of having someone, anyone come home crippled or psychologically scarred is a frightening thought. What is more frightening is a congress and president (commander in chief) who show no respect for those who have made the sacrifice, much less for those who are making the sacrifice today.

This is our opportunity to show our service men and women that we can have domestic unrest while honoring them and their families at home. After all, for our government not to show their appreciation and loyalty to those who are asked to fight and die for what our country believes in is a real outrage. Political parties aside, right is right and wrong is wrong.

It appears that the constant political squabbling is never going to end. They only answer is for the millions of veterans to pull together and form a united front with the intention of working for the interests of all veterans and active duty personnel.  If this could happen, then those organizations who tout themselves as working for veterans can make a renewed effort and develop a new united front in order to preserve our military and safeguard the families of those who answer their country's call.

No change will ever happen with the likes of a secretary of defense who in a time of crisis appears to be AWOL. It is our belief that a new political movement is absolutely necessary to ensure that the disgraceful actions against our dead service men and women and their families will not happen again.

Mostly the politicians are to be reminded that the very foundation of our existence rests on the strength of our armed forces and the respect and the honor we show them.

"For those that have fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know." Author unknown.

James Bryant, Thomas Bryant and Nicholas Valenti

Auburn

(56) comments

liberal karl
liberal karl

I didn't read ONE THING that the parties accused have allegedly done to "disrespect" veterans. Just a lot of bellyaching and vague accusations from these authors.

Here's a list complied by Politifact, a Pulitzer Prize winning site, on Obama's promises to veterans KEPT. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/subjects/veterans/

Here's another long list of positive things that Obama has done for veterans: https://sites.google.com/site/presidentobamasrecord/military-veterans

This sounds like a partisan political attack, nothing more.

movedsouth
movedsouth

You should be quite familiar with vague accusations:

http://www.businessinsider.com/iava-tom-tarantino-chained-cpi-social-security-cuts-2013-5

liberal karl
liberal karl

Well I don't blame Obama for this? He had to do it to mollify the treasonous Republicans--WHO APPARENTLY ACCEPTED THE "DEAL"?

I thought they were the "Patriotic Party"? Goes to show you how "hypocrisy" to them is just a word.

Tom
Tom

No No No. To a Republican, hypocrisy isn't just a word. It's a way of life. :)

movedsouth
movedsouth

It's amazingly ignorant, you don't blame Obama for ANYTHING! Yes the GOP compromised!

movedsouth
movedsouth

" http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/subjects/veterans/"

Now this is from YOUR link:

Reduce the Veterans Benefits Administration claims backlog
Veterans claims backlog grew under Obama
The progress on this promise is a mixed bag. Although he made modest improvements, he failed to keep up with the surge of applications. On the most important measurement of this promise -- the claims backlog -- things are worse. We rate this a Promise Broken.

Tom
Tom

From that same article:

"Some context though: In the past four years, Veterans Affairs hired more than 2,500 new staff to rate claims and shortened the average time to process a claim by 16 percent since 2008. The backlog worsened because the expanded staff didn't keep pace with increased demand. A decade of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, new benefits made available to veterans and more medical conditions per veteran have resulted a dramatic increase in claims. The number of claims jumped from 888,000 in 2008 to 1.4 million in 2011."

Let's see. What President started 2 wars and didn't allow for an increase in veterans?
Why hasn't the Republican controlled House passed funding increases for VA affairs?
Once again it seems Repubs like to start wars and then leave the aftermath for someone else to clean up.

liberal karl
liberal karl

Great point, Tom.

liberal karl
liberal karl

HAHAHAHAHA You've GOT to be kidding!

YOU are the "Cherry Picking KING"!

We ought to get you a colorful sash and a tiara, honestly,..lol

movedsouth
movedsouth

" On the most important measurement of this promise -- the claims backlog -- things are worse. We rate this a Promise Broken."

Enough said!

Proudlibber

I have no idea what the letter writer is trying to say in regards to exactly how veterans have been disrespected by OUR president.

It was the GOP who shut down our government which then resulted in problems funded veteran benefits and memorials being kept open.

Sorry but the GOP has to realize that there is no free lunch.

movedsouth
movedsouth

The president shut down the government by saying he would not negotiate, reality is that the president, the House and Senate are all responsible. No one gets a pass on this. And a liberal saying there's no free lunch, THAT'S FUNNY!

Tom
Tom

No. The President shut down the government by refusing to cave in to terrorist demands.
The House Republicans are responsible by trying to hold the country hostage for a single item, the complete defunding of Obamacare, and ONLY that item.

movedsouth
movedsouth

NO, the president would not negotiate on the debt ceiling.

Tom
Tom

movedsouth - 37 minutes ago
"NO, the president would not negotiate on the debt ceiling."
movedsouth - 3 hours ago
"The president shut down the government by saying he would not negotiate,"

I wish you'd make up your mind about exactly what is Obama's fault.

The gov shut down over the CR bill due to economic terrorism by the Tea Party terrorists.
The Debt Ceiling is a completely different issue and there was NOTHING to negotiate. Raising the DC is done to pay for what Congress ALREADY SPENT.

movedsouth
movedsouth

Obama wanted a blank check THRU 2014, that's not money already spent. Only a fool would have believed that either party would let the government default. BOTH sides were at fault.

Tom
Tom

Since you're obviously quoting the daily drivel from the Tea Party Weekly, maybe you don't know how the government actually works.
You see, CONGRESS decides what money gets spent on and how much, whether through an actual budget or simply CR's.
The "Blank Check" is only for assurance that the COUNTRY can pay for what CONGRESS buys.
Obama wants the assurance that the COUNTRY is NOT HELD HOSTAGE again in a couple months.

Call me a "fool" then. The terrorists in the Repub Party voted against raising the DC and are saying they will do it again. Both Cruz and Paul have publicly stated they don't even believe the DC is important and have called it a "soft" date anyway.

And you are still blending 2 different issues, CR and DC.
CR is how much CONGRESS says to spend and DC is ability to pay for it. >>>

movedsouth
movedsouth

We have a two party system and the ignorant name calling from the extreme left and supporters stoops too low. Obama called for civility and his party is the worst offenders. You probably agree with Grayson and his tea party comparison to the KKK. That crap doesn't set well with me, please be civil. IF the DC is the debt level, it's funny that Obama said that raising it was irresponsible, he was right! When was Obama's last budget Passed? I seem to remember something about not ONE Democratic vote for it.

Tom
Tom

>>>> The amount authorized by CONGRESS to spend should NOT be left until it's a crisis. And don't even think of saying Repubs have passed budgets but the Dems won't negotiate.
They WILL negotiate, but the TP'ers insist on adding poison pills to kill Obamacare in part or it's entirety with every spending bill being discussed. Not a single amendment has ever been added by Repubs to fix something wrong with Obamacare or to offer an alternative to what they object to. It has always been unconditional repeal or defund.
That's solely on the Repubs and their terrorist faction.
.

Tom
Tom

movedsouth - 1 hour ago
"We have a two party system and the ignorant name calling from the extreme left and supporters stoops too low. Obama called for civility and his party is the worst offenders. You probably agree with Grayson and his tea party comparison to the KKK. That crap doesn't set well with me, please be civil. IF the DC is the debt level, it's funny that Obama said that raising it was irresponsible, he was right! "

Typical. Rather than address the points made, feign offense and duck it.
Obama was WRONG then and it was a political stunt with full knowledge that his vote didn't matter at the time.
And no, I don't agree with that comparison. I compare them to the rise of the Nazi party where they play to the base fears of the populace to gather and consolidate their power for the purpose of recreating the country to their own liking.
And if that offends you, too bad. Your "situational ethics and facts" offends me.

movedsouth
movedsouth

NOW is the time for immigration reform, let's not wait. We MUST take the focus away from the failed rollout of the ACA. If we can start to conversate on immigration reform, opinions might be strong enough to forget about not being able to enroll for health insurance and just pay the fine. But I must change my income tax deductions so I don't actually have to pay the fine.

movedsouth
movedsouth

FOUR dead Americans on American soil and the Democrats call it a phoney scandal. Hillary basically said so what! Real terrorists!


"The State Department's "Rewards for Justice" program -- which offers multimillion-dollar payouts for tips leading to wanted terrorists -- does not include suspects in the Benghazi terror attack.

The State Department has not offered an explanation as to why those individuals are not on the list. Pressed by Fox News and The Associated Press on Thursday, spokeswoman Marie Harf suggested the important thing was that the Obama administration is resolved to find those suspects.

"This is nothing at all to do with politics. We've made crystal clear that we want to find these people and bring them to justice," Harf said. "Whether we pay a couple million dollars isn't the point -- the point is we believe it's a priority ... and whether they are on a website or not doesn't change that." "

liberal karl
liberal karl

My gawd---are YOU STILL beating this dead horse named "Benghazi"??!? Give it a rest, for mercy's sake!

Tom
Tom

Apparently he's not just beating it, but hooking electrodes to it so he can go "It's alive, ALIVE" (Frankenstein in case nobody get's it). :)

liberal karl
liberal karl

Just a suggestion: read October 24, 2013 Rolling Stone magazine article :A House Divided: Extremism and the Lessons of History". It's really a remarkable accounting of the whole history of the GoP radicalization and the whole "debt limit" History and fiasco. Movedsouth, you could really learn something here. I certainly did.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/republican-extremism-and-the-lessons-of-history-20131010

movedsouth
movedsouth

karL, we all know that we can take a piece of factual information and spin it as to which ever side you relate to. When you have things like "Meet The Eight Tea Party Morons Destroying America" the opinion article is not worth reading. My response, do a search for far left, or socialist liberals/democrats destroying America. You should find articles just as enlightening. And Benghazi is alive, why are questions unanswered?

liberal karl
liberal karl

You really do your own intellect an extreme disservice to blithely dismiss something which seeks to educate, not propagandize. It's a no-nonsense blow-by-blow account of the radicalizing of the Republican Party and the factors that influenced their degeneration into the Tea Party. It's chronological and historical.

My guess is that it would too-greatly unsettled your grossly-distorted views of How Things Are, and secondarily, that you're so used to reading partisan agitprop by Fox, et all, that you can't actually assimilate the idea of a factual article that has integrity and truth in it. That's where your claim of "spinning" comes in before you just summarily dismiss it without merit. Your brain is so corrupted by the input of incendiary, inflammatory propaganda that real journalism has no hope of making a dent. That's GENUINELY sad--hopeless, really?

Tom
Tom

Got it. Rather than continue defense of an indefensible position, now you're trying the old "Look over there" routine by throwing up Immigration and Benghazi.

OK. Immigration reform won't happen because the TP'ers position is to load illegals onto buses and ship them back, then go after anybody that looks or acts Hispanic or "other" (even legal Citizens) through unfair and Unconstitutional abuses.

Benghazi IS a phony scandal. It's been shown it was primarily a CIA operation, there was a "turf" battle between the CIA and State, somebody screwed up and people got killed.
It was not planned, It was not intentional, but the "witch hunt" continues. Get over it.

movedsouth
movedsouth

Liberals have never been known for responsibility. "Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius took a swipe Friday at those calling for her to resign over the botched ObamaCare website rollout, suggesting that Republican efforts to delay and defund the law contributed to HealthCare.gov's glitch-ridden debut."

Let's see, Obama has delayed:
1. Medicare cuts
2. Employer mandates
3.out of pocket insurance costs

NOW when the Republicans proposed a 1 year delay in the individual mandate, it's their fault the Democrats weren't ready, go figure.

Tom
Tom

Calling for her resignation is pure political stupidity. It's nothing but scapegoating.
The companies that designed and implemented the site are solely responsible for it's problems.
I do have to say that I fail to see how Repub efforts to delay and defund had anything to do with it.
While it may have added pressure to get it done before the bugs were worked out, it was the responsibility of the designers to say it isn't ready and delay it's roll-out.
There are over 40 million uninsured that could reasonably be expected to use the site, so it should have been designed to serve that many.
After watching some of the hearings, it's obvious they underbid it and didn't want to admit it. They simply couldn't produce the product they promised for the agreed upon price.

movedsouth
movedsouth

It was the responsibility of the administration to roll out a product that worked!

movedsouth
movedsouth

"The Affordable Care Act proposes to make health insurance affordable to millions of low-income Americans by offering them tax credits to help cover the cost. To receive the credit, the law twice says they must buy insurance "through an exchange established by the state."

But 36 states have decided against opening exchanges for now. Although the law permits the federal government to open exchanges instead, it does not say tax credits may be given to those who buy insurance through a federally run exchange."


Let's see how the courts decide on this.

Tom
Tom

Those States opting out are predominantly RED states. It's not a stretch to say that's it's political.
And what do the "courts" have to decide? If a state opts out, it means the state isn't running the exchange and let it default to the federal government to operate the exchange for that state. It's still an exchange for that state and offerings are still based on state requirements for insurance.
Sweet deal for the Repubs. They get the benefits of the law with no responsibility for it's administration.
If it goes to the "courts", it will be done by Republicans in a further attempt to delay and damage the program for pure political reasons.

movedsouth
movedsouth

TAX CREDITS

it does not say tax credits may be given to those who buy insurance through a federally run exchange."

Tom
Tom

It's still a STATE exchange (subject to state insurance requirements), but being administered by the feds.
So is this the next TP method to try to kill Obamacare? Argue about authorization for legitimate credits and tie it up and tick people off to turn them against ACA?

movedsouth
movedsouth

More than 80 percent of Republicans and 58 percent of independents support the creation of a special panel to assess security levels before the attack and to hold accountable any Obama administration officials who might have covered up failures to maintain those levels.

Nearly half of Democrats, along with 89 percent of Republicans and 63 percent of independents, don’t believe the administration “has been honest and forthcoming” about the Benghazi attack, the poll found.

The poll, released by SecureAmericaNow.org, was conducted late last month with 600 likely general election voters. The pollsters said the margin of error was 4 percentage points.

A Fox News national poll released Thursday finds that 78 percent of voters think the questions over the administration’s handling of the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi should be taken seriously. Just 17 percent call it a phony scandal.

Tom
Tom

Oh brother!!! SecureAmericaNow??? Really??? Now there's an unbiased, bipartisan group. F!!!
And FOX NEWS??? Were they voters waiting to get in to Hannity?

OK. Honest and forthcoming? What part of it being primarily a CIA op didn't you get?
Oh, wait, Repubs. I keep forgetting you guys seem to think it's A-OK to out covert operatives.
And I find it shocking, just shocking, that Repubs want a "special panel" to keep fishing, even though all the hearings they've already had turned up NOTHING (kind of like Issa's "IRS scandal" and it's "smoking gun" of White House involvement).

movedsouth
movedsouth

"“The only people who feel there shouldn’t be more coming in to the federal government from the rich people are the Republicans in the Congress,” Reid told the radio host, according to Roll Call. “Everybody else, including the rich people, are willing to pay more. They want to pay more.” "

I guess "more" is the operative word. I wonder if he is actually talking of those who don't pay income taxes. Right now, I don't want to pay more income taxes until spending is under control.

Tom
Tom

What can I say? I think I mentioned something about Reid in a different topic.
Don't forget to say "Thank you" to the TP for him. I think they wanted him re-elected as part of their "Destroy America" plan.

movedsouth
movedsouth

" Tom - 16 minutes ago
Oh brother!!! SecureAmericaNow??? Really??? Now there's an unbiased, bipartisan group. F!!!
And FOX NEWS??? Were they voters waiting to get in to Hannity?"

I'm open to YOU showing a poll that people really don't care about Benghazi.
Fox news poll, LIKE MOST polls is conducted by both left and right companies and furnishes count of each parties. Polls vary, but they do show that's it's a not a non issue.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/10/benghazi-poll_n_3255403.html
http://www.gallup.com/poll/162584/americans-attention-irs-benghazi-stories-below-average.aspx

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/05/14/obama-benghazi-pew-research-center-poll/2157777/

Tom
Tom

At the risk of being repetitious, this is from my previous post.
"OK. Honest and forthcoming? What part of it being primarily a CIA op didn't you get?
Oh, wait, Repubs. I keep forgetting you guys seem to think it's A-OK to out covert operatives."

To add to that previous post:
I'm quite sure the Repub "witch hunters" would love to have the administration tell the public every detail so they can then accuse them of divulging classified operational intelligence in how the op was set up and run.

As far as polls: most polls show Americans overwhelmingly favoring increasing taxes on the rich. I notice Repubs aren't demanding THAT "voice of the people" be heard.

movedsouth
movedsouth

"You really do your own intellect an extreme disservice to blithely dismiss something which seeks to educate, not propagandize"

Calling a political faction morons is not propagandizing? Get real. I really don't want to post nonsense from the right to combat your nonsense from the left. It was an opinion article.

Tom
Tom

I missed that. Must have been Karl. And no, it's not "propagandizing" if it's true. It's just stating fact.
If this was the TP being discussed, Karl is wrong that they are morons (well maybe some of the blind sheep followers). I think it's been established that the leaders of the TP are DOMESTIC TERRORISTS that use threats, blackmail, and extortion to further their political aims.

liberal karl
liberal karl

That's pretty much the impression one gets from the article, Tom. It's really quite an informative article that chronicle's the TP's hostile take over of the Repub party and how badly John Boehner and Cantor misjudged them. It really points out how impotent and how badly a failure is Bohner as Speaker, and how much of a threat the TP poses.

liberal karl
liberal karl

You're simply trying to provide a weak excuse for not challenging your, uh...."unique" view of what is really going on in Washington and this country. Apparently, anything that contradicts YOUR own ill-informed "opinion" is "opinion", no matter how adroitly reported it is? I just wonder--do you actually make a considered decision to not read stuff like this, or is it so guttural and visceral that you just automatically react out of fear?

Allow me to correct your deliberate misunderstanding: "Republican Extremism and the Lessons of History: This crisis is about nothing other than the Republican Party – its radicalization, its stunning lack of leadership and its disregard for the Constitution"

THAT is the title and sub-title of the article. The usage of "morons" is not opinion; it is a correct appellation. The dictionary defines this as "a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment". This is simply an accurate descriptor of the Tea Party morons. What's the problem?


Tom
Tom

movedsouth - 3 hours ago
"It was the responsibility of the administration to roll out a product that worked!"

And just HOW was the "Administration" aware that it didn't work?
Did the "private contractor" that designed it tell them this is going to crash and burn and won't be able to handle the anticipated volume? How many companies do you know that build things and then tell the purchaser that they have no idea if it works? Isn't the testing of the site the responsibility of the designers?
I wasn't aware that people in the executive branch of government were supposed to be code experts. I always thought that's why they hired someone who IS to do things like this.

movedsouth
movedsouth

I didn't say they WERE aware that it didn't work just that it was their responsibility to know if it would work. There should have been test results. It should have been tested. Yes the designers should have tested it and the administration should have had the results before rollout.

movedsouth
movedsouth

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/90160-watch-snls-hilarious-spoof-kathleen-sebelius-trying-explain-helathcare-gov/


At least Kathleen offered some help.

movedsouth
movedsouth

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PLAN:

(10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.

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enter the trailer park."

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(06) The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is "an =
apple a day."

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is not a typographical error.

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(02) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little M's on them.

AND THE NUMBER ONE SIGN YOU'VE JOINED OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN:

(01) You receive your notice that you are now a part time employee =
instead of full time.


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Indian." Henry Ford

movedsouth
movedsouth

"As far as polls: most polls show Americans overwhelmingly favoring increasing taxes on the rich. I notice Repubs aren't demanding THAT "voice of the people" be heard."

I just heard back from the Republican site, I questioned the increase in taxes. Their response was that the polls show that most people believe that everyone should pay SOME income tax. I found that to be true. They also mentioned that most people favor the repeal of the ACA, and reducing spending. They claim that when everyone pays some income tax, they will gladly increase taxes on the wealthy. BUT, it's hard to deal with the far left that wants more dependency on the government. It appears to be a standoff.

Tom
Tom

"I just heard back from the Republican site"

I KNEW IT!!!! I JUST KNEW IT!!! I knew you had to "check in" with the bosses before you could form or post "your" opinion. :) :) :)

movedsouth
movedsouth

I have to tell you something funny. I think it was you that mentioned the Tea Party Express, I actually HAD some e-mails from them! Stuff I don't pay attention to and just delete! I really had no idea it was there, now reported as spam and unsubscribed, GONE!

movedsouth
movedsouth

It's turning out that the ACA , Obamacare, could be the best thing for the GOP. Obozo's ratings are sinking. This guy will not accept responsibility for lies/untruths/misleading s, now he's saying those with the health plans they liked had junk policies. Why? doesn't he just say that he didn't know? He didn't know about Benghazi, he didn't know about the IRS, he didn't know that millions would have their policies cancelled, and I'll bet he knows his golf scores for the past 6 months.

movedsouth
movedsouth

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/george-w-bush-rebounds-in-the-polls-still-below-other-ex-presidents/bush-miss-me-yet/

movedsouth
movedsouth

You will be AMAZED at how scary true and accurate this test is

1. Pick a number from 1-9.

2. Multiply that number by 3.

3. Add 3.

4. Multiply by 3 again.

5. Your total will be a two digit number. Add the first and second digits together to find your favorite movie (of all time) in the list of 17 movies below:


Movie List:

1. Gone With the Wind
2. E.T.
3. Blazing Saddles
4. Star Wars
5. Forrest Gump
6. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
7. Jaws
8. Grease
9. The Obama Farewell Speech
10. Casablanca
11. Jurassic Park
12. Shrek
13. Pirates of the Caribbean
14. Titanic
15. Raiders of the Lost Ark
16. Home Alone
17. Mrs. Doubtfire

Now, isn't that something?

movedsouth
movedsouth

Make sure you give them ALL the information they need:

"WASHINGTON – Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius admitted Wednesday that it was possible convicted felons could be hired as ObamaCare ‘navigators,’ giving them access to personal information like Social Security numbers and addresses of anyone signing up for the program."

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